Thrive in Midlife with Heather Tydings of Own Your Evolution

This week I'm talking with Heather Tydings, the owner of Own Your Evolution. Heather is a practicing psychotherapist and life coach. Listen as we jam out on empty nest women, mental wellness, food, fun, and travel.  

A travel loving foodie, Heather is also a lifetime vegetarian, triple Capricorn, mama bear, wife, friend, and celebrator of all good things in life. 

You can find Heather at ownyourevolution.com

Transcript

Christine Van Bloem: Today, I am here, I am so excited, I am so, so excited with the fabulous, the incredible, the amazing Heather Tydings, owner of Own Your Evolution.

Heather Tydings: Hi. Good morning, Chris.

Christine Van Bloem: So we were doing a little pre check before we start recording because this is new ish for the both of us but I have known Heather for several years and I am just a colossal fan of Own Your Evolution.

Heather Tydings: Wow, I'm a colossal fan of CVB. And Empty

Christine Van Bloem: a mutual admiration society. Oh, you're the best. Well, listen, I wanted to have you on here today. You are my very first guest. And we were saying, we're going to look back at this, you know, in three seasons and do another one. And we'll be like, Oh, look at that. But I just feel like you have so much to offer to Women who are emptying their nests, their nests have emptied.

I know you also work with teenage girls. A lot of us have teenage girls or have had teenage girls. Tell me a little about Own Your Evolution. Best name ever, by the way. Tell me about Own your evolution and how you came to doing what you're doing.

Heather Tydings: So I opened my practice in 2012. I had been working for a managed healthcare company for 13 years from 5 p. m. to 1 a. m. doing crisis calls and critical debriefing. Yeah, out of my home office that I'm in right now. It was, it was a lot. So 13 years of that and I knew, you know, you just start to feel the pull of newness and that started to come in.

The dissatisfaction started to build and I just started to create my business while I worked full time. So I worked full time. I had a child that was not thriving in life. He had a lot of like health and food issues, food sensitivities. And so I was taking care of him working full time. And I just started to build my business very, very slowly.

I would tell myself to just spend 20 minutes about three times a week. And it took me about a year to build and launch and create. And in, in the, in that time, I also took Martha Beck's life coaching school, which was. For me, yeah, it was like a year long program and almost a year, actually, because I took some additional at the end with other coaches.

So, I was also getting very nourished and very Inspired by other women starting their own new thing, their own new things in life. And so then I launched in 2012 and I've never looked back.

Christine Van Bloem: That is so cool. And now I just, I want to be sure that I say this because you are also a licensed clinical social worker, correct?

Heather Tydings: That's right. Yes.

Christine Van Bloem: Yeah. So you come at this. I mean, I, I seriously can't imagine doing a crisis. Helpline, because right now I'm like, ooh, banana bread, you know, not, not my, not my alley, right? But you've been working in this field your whole career, really?

Heather Tydings: Since the 90s, there was a school called the Jefferson School in Brunswick, Maryland. And I started, when I graduated from college, I started working in their trauma unit. And then I, yeah, that was with teenagers who were had high, high degrees of trauma. And then I worked in an emergency department doing psychiatric assessments.

And from there I was recruited to work at the managed healthcare. But it was, it was very, I worked very intense. environments for a long time. So doing my own thing and being my own boss and really doing services the way that worked for me versus how I was told to do it was delightful.

Christine Van Bloem: Yeah, a little reveling you. And you are located in Urbana, Maryland here. So I'm up in Frederick. We're really close together. So I see Heather out at events and it always gives me such delight because you guys don't know this about Heather yet, but she is The cutest, the most fashionable, just the most pulled together every time.

I'm like, that's all I need as an empty nester. I just need somebody to look at and be like, oh, can I do that? That would be so cool. So So, let me ask you this. In your practice, you see women and teenage girls. Do you have any tips for the ladies who are going to be experiencing the empty nest or have already and maybe they're kind of struggling with it?

Because as empty nesters, we devote all of this time to our families, right? And to our children and all of that. And then you come out of it and it's weird. And I know you're soon to be an empty nester. You just have another couple of years. I think it's fabulous. Don't, I could tell by that, that yes, you know, but, but I have zero credibility in this field, right?

I'm just somebody who's like, I refuse to let this suck.

Heather Tydings: Well, you have so much credibility 'cause you've done it. You've, you've walked the process twice, so Yeah. You absolutely do

Christine Van Bloem: okay. All right. I'll take it. I'll take it. I'm so desperate. It

Heather Tydings: Yeah, so my son will, he informed me last week that he is going to be 18 next year. And when he said it, it was like a dagger to my heart. Honestly, I was like, there's no way you're 18. Like my brain could not compute, but in fact, in 2025, he will turn 18 and soon thereafter he will launch. And a lot of women come in, in this time period, because not only are their children, moving to the next stage of life, but they're hitting perimenopause.

They often have parents who aren't thriving or need extra care. And so it is like this perfect storm around four, you know, 48, 50, where this starts. Women, not, I mean, some women are younger, but a lot of times women find their way in, in those years really grieving and confused and unsure of who they are.

Kind of have lost their footing and need to be validated. That is, for a lot of women, it is a big grieving process to release your babes into the wild. It is not yeah, really is. Like, I, The grief that comes out of women when their last child especially goes because the home is so quiet the energy is so different, and if there isn't, if there is unresolved things in the home, they're very pronounced, and that they have to, you know, maybe have a deeper look.

So, people come in a lot during that time period, and what we do is we start with the grief process, and many people don't want to name that as grief, but it truly is, and they don't want to go in and feel it. They just kind of want to override it and get on to the next thing, so they don't have to feel it.

That's the part of therapy that they don't love is just really experiencing and having the grief validated that this is, this is a loss and a gain. Like, this is what you have been, you know, cultivating in your child is this independence and this freedom. And it feels like a loss in a lot of ways, especially if your, your role primarily has been as a mother.

I find that there are some women that come in and they have feelings of loss, but they also have built up what they want to do next as their children are launching as, you know, especially kids get into high school, they have more time. And the women who start to build up and be curious then they feel it, but they, they also have their little, their thing, their thing that they're working on or interested in.

One became a master gardener, which I thought was really, really cool.

Christine Van Bloem: that's cool.

Heather Tydings: Yeah. Another one is learning like some artful dance and travels around the world and learn some artful dance. So she's building these really nourishing practices, a very ways of growing and re embedding them herself while their child is leaving.

And I find that that Sometimes helps the whole process because they have then this new reinvention of themselves that they can take out into the world. And if they haven't, which that's absolutely fine too, and there's plenty that haven't, it is a time that they can do that. And once we go through the grieving process, and they're, you know, Then we can start to imagine what they want to add into their life or what they want to clean up or they actually may have time to think about where they've been living out of integrity for so long that their whole system is off.

And so it's a time to like figure out how do I come into alignment with who I am, what I want, and take that out into the world. That happens a lot at that time of life that women want to find their voice again.

Christine Van Bloem: Yeah.

Heather Tydings: that was a lot of words.

Christine Van Bloem: it, it, no, that's perfect. That's so perfect. I'm like, I'm enraptured with this whole thing because for me, I, you know, I'm like a bulldozer. And when my youngest left for college, I took another job. Teaching at the high school, the local high school, mostly so that I would have the income because we had two kids in college that year.

But it didn't allow me the time to do the grieving. But I have really tried to embrace, and I know a bunch of women who have, I've tried to embrace all of the Free time, you know, my husband and I were talking the other night and I said I almost feel guilty at the time that I have now because we had so many You know, he was like, Okay, well, I'll be at Boy Scouts on Monday, and I have this on Tuesday, and I have PTSA on Wednesday.

And I'm like, Okay, and I'm cooking here and doing this and doing that. And we both giggled, because it's really nice. And you come out on the other side of it, and I kind of look at these millennial women who are going through it, right, going through all of the scouts and sports and all of that. And I can feel for them.

Heather Tydings: Mm hmm.

Christine Van Bloem: But then I can come home and go, Ha ha, I think I'll watch some Netflix. Ha ha

Heather Tydings: Exactly. Eat Cheerios for dinner. Yeah.

Christine Van Bloem: dinner. This is never gonna happen. Never gonna have cereal for dinner. Thank you

Heather Tydings: am I saying to you?

Christine Van Bloem: What the heck?

Heather Tydings: symbolically speaking, you can eat whatever you want for dinner. Olives

Christine Van Bloem: Symbolic Cheerios. I love the Symbolic Cheerios. I know plenty of people that do that. Well what I'm gonna do, cause I just think you're the coolest. I mean seriously, it's like a total fangirl moment. But I love how you understand this so well and that you're coaching women and helping women and you're a real life therapist.

You're not just a life coach. That's sort of the thing. The service, a service that you offer for folks who don't necessarily need the full on, right, clutch the pillow on the couch thing.

Heather Tydings: Yeah. You, you said like, I do life coaching in addition to therapies. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And I, at first I was, when I first started opening my practice, I had to think about how to do life coaching and clinical therapy and now they just have blended over time. They just blend depending on who walks through my door, what their needs are what their history is, what their, you know, level of childhood experiences or traumas.

Yeah. Yeah. So

Christine Van Bloem: Childhood Trauma Host Raises Hand. What? What? No, we're fine. We're

Heather Tydings: most of us have some of that in our history.

Christine Van Bloem: For me, for me now, I'm looking at my own kids going, oh my gosh, are they gonna say that I gave them trauma when I worked so hard to not give them trauma? I mean, okay, I threatened to lock one in a closet once. Did I do it? No. So for I know that you have started to offer like you're dipping a toe into the events sort of thing, which I love because I, I love events.

I, sometimes I'm afraid to sign up for things because I don't want to be the only person. So I'm trying to embrace that now because it scares me. But what kind of, what kind of things? You had like a sound thing that you were doing. What are you doing?

Heather Tydings: You know, when you start to get pulled by your hair to do something new, you have to listen or you, you just start to get, feel stagnant. And last year it was really, well, in 2019, I doubled my my space to include a group room so I could start to do groups. It's the very end of 2019 and, and do, you know, things that brought women together in a supportive, connected way.

And then we all know that, that we couldn't bring anybody together in a supportive, connected way. And then I rented the group room out as an office, you know, just try to. To make use of it. So that idea didn't die. It just was, you know, on hold for a bit of time. So the end of last year, there was some really some really, some things that came up that made me realize the fragility of life and the shortness of life and what can happen very quickly in my world.

And I just wanted to go back and pick up on. Things that I wanted to do previously that had been left undone and that would also bring me a lot of fulfillment in a new way. And so I took a course on how to host national and international retreats from an incredible woman, Susan Hyatt out in Indiana.

Very, yeah, it was really helpful. And I just decided to start small and do events because With women being able to connect through warmth, through healing, that is something that will enrich their lives, but isn't one on one therapy. I think it's a break for me too, to go and connect that way. You know, it's something different.

And what I hear so often in my office, especially when The kids, their kids leave the home is they don't have ways to connect with other women. It was so much fostered through, you know schooling and games and sports and that kind of thing. And they are, they're lacking that, that avenue to really connect and, and with really positive, inspiring women.

And so, That has been on my mind because it is a real heartache for women actually to have a lack of friendship and, and real authentic connection to be able to say the hard things to another female is so, is so amazing. And so just, it revitalizes us to be able to go and say something to a safe other person.

And there's so many women that don't have that and amazing. I mean women that are just I want to be their friend, right? I want to be their friend because they're just they're magnetizing and I wanted to start to create some ways to bring them together. And even if it's just in a room, just light connection, it's something.

And maybe something more will come out of it. But so that is the, the avenue I am developing in 2024. So I have a sound bath, hot tea, sound bath. It's called Sip and Sound in March, March

Christine Van Bloem: Oh, that's so

Heather Tydings: five tickets left. And then I'm going to do a book club. In Old, at Old Westminster Street, Old Westminster Winery in April, the end of April.

Yeah, in one of their greenhouses. And that'll be, that'll be a lot of fun. Mm

Christine Van Bloem: that's so cool. That is, that's just really fun. I, I love that. Offering these little events and these little touches for women to come out and connect with other women.

Heather Tydings: Yes. It's, you know, my little launch pad until I start to do retreats. Then I'll do a national retreat, you know, and then I'll probably start to, I will do international retreats. In 2025?

Christine Van Bloem: Holy bananas. Oh my gosh, I

Heather Tydings: Stay tuned.

Christine Van Bloem: So I'm gonna put, I feel so fancy saying this, I'm gonna put Heather's contact info in the show notes. Sorry, I'm still so tickled, right? I just love doing this. Oh my gosh, I just channeled my grandmother saying tickled. Holy, oh so here's a question for you. Because I know that you are a lifelong, long term, you know, cradle to grave vegetarian.

Heather Tydings: All true?

Christine Van Bloem: Yeah, so I'm thinking of delicious vegetarian delights at all of your retreats now. So, maybe you'll need, maybe you'll need a chef to

Heather Tydings: I will need a chef. I

Christine Van Bloem: just saying. I'm just saying.

Heather Tydings: Yes.

Christine Van Bloem: yeah, well, photography, you'll get a lot of shots of like up the nose or something if I'm taking them. But I know, I remember talking to you because I connect to everybody through food.

It's, it's my comfort zone. It's the way I go. And I remember telling you about some dish I had had and you were like, Oh, that sounds good. You're very polite because you're one of the polite vegetarians, right? My sister in law is one of those too. Yeah. that is like, oh, you know, and not trying to tell me.

No, no, don't eat the chicken. And you were like, oh, well, I'm a vegetarian. I was like, what? The whole idea of a lifelong vegetarian. Cause I grew up in PA, right? South Central PA. And no, what were vegetables? What were vegetables? If they weren't in gravy, John said something about everything you eat is in a sauce.

I'm like, what's wrong with that? One heart attack later. So, like, talk to me about, I know it's how you've been raised, it's everything, so it's not even anything you think about, right?

Heather Tydings: my great grandmother was a vegetarian. So then my grandmother was a vegetarian. My mom was a vegetarian. So we never had food meat in our, in our home. It originated through beliefs of being Seventh Day Adventists. So Seventh Day Adventists have a very strong health message about consuming meat and how to eat and when to eat.

It's very powerful. Disciplined, precise food message. And so, there was never meat in my home. And you can imagine in the 70s and 80s, you know, that was really not, we didn't, now you cannot. And there was, there's, it's interesting how being a vegetarian brings up that. Anger in people or, or irritation. It's really interesting.

I'm not irritated if anybody eats meat. I doesn't, none of that like impacts me in any way. And I think you should do what you should do for your body and your, your history. And so it was interesting and, you know, I had, I had a lot of people really give me a hard time over the years and really tease and make fun of me, but I never desired meat and never had a taste for it.

We eat vegetarian. Mostly in our home now, my husband will make like a steak on the grill for him and my son. They'll do a little bit of meat, but mostly it's vegetarian. And for me, total, totally vegetarian. It's almost like, this is how I describe it, it was never around me. And so, because I was raised in such a some of the Adventist community, a lot of people were vegetarian when I was young.

And It was so foreign. One time when I went to somebody, a neighbor's house and they were serving spaghetti with beef, like, and it just had this smell of, like, I just could not wait to get out of their house. I had not had any of that. I've never been, I've never experienced that. And so I just developed like a taste obviously for clean, light eating, cause I felt really good in my body when I ate that way. Never will look back.

Christine Van Bloem: Yeah. Well, and, and, you know, it's so funny because I, I know I used to be just so, so judgy about everything. Like growing up, it's just, it's, I was kind of a jerk. You know, when I look back, I'm like, Oh my gosh. in the, you know, years of therapy have brought me to a place where I'm just. I don't care. I don't care.

Do I need to make something else for you? Okay. Well, I have these cool beans. Let's do something. But I also think if you compare vegetarian food, I won't even go to the seventies because, oh my goodness, but of the eighties, To the 2020s, I mean, it is just such a cool world now. There's so much cool stuff.

My sister in law, who's one of my favorite people in the whole world became a vegetarian, I don't know, about a decade ago. And she is always coming up with cool things. She's been doing a mushroom bourguignon,

Heather Tydings: Mm-Hmm.

Christine Van Bloem: you know, and I'm like, Oh, and I've been dipping a toe into it. Now I'm still a carnivore. But I Like meat is not every meal.

Meat's not even every day. It's kind of do what you do, right? Do what feels good. So what are some of your favorite dishes?

Heather Tydings: Mm. Well, I love to cook and I love to eat and when I have time. One of my favorite things to do is to turn on some good music, pour a glass of wine, light a candle, get a recipe out, or go rogue, and create some deliciousness. So, this season, we have eaten a tremendous amount of soups. Do curry soups lots of beans you know, I do a vegetarian, gluten free lasagna that is delightful.

Christine Van Bloem: Okay.

Heather Tydings: now that we're getting into like warmer weather, I'll start to do more smoothies. But for dinners, like more bowls. Fajita bowl. Me too.

Christine Van Bloem: I, but they're a lot of work.

Heather Tydings: are. Yeah. I, I, I have a lot of rituals and routines that keep me kind of humming and healthy. And so Sundays is grocery shopping day. And Typically food prep and sometimes I'll make a big thing of soup for the week just to nosh on.

So I just have something that can grab and go. I might add different toppings and different spices or different herbs. And I make, now lately I've been making a big collard green salad with red cabbage, carrots, edamame, roasted sweet potatoes, and a tahini dressing and I'll put sesame, or sesame seeds and sunflower seeds and I'll eat that for my lunches, grab and go.

So if I prep on Sunday, I eat so much better during the week. And when I eat so much better during the week, I hum, my work is, is smoother. My personality is, I just, I just work better. So that is, that is one of my routines that really keeps me moving and keeps me, you know, healthy. And, and I. That is something really important to me.

My mom has Alzheimer's and she started to show signs very, when she was pretty, pretty young. And so I think that it's only intensified my desire to eat clean. And you know, I just said before we got on, do a three day juice cleanse, just to cleanse the liver, cleanse, cleanse the system, get the digestive

Christine Van Bloem: don't know Heather.

Heather Tydings: I

Christine Van Bloem: I don't know I don't know

Heather Tydings: Maybe next time it'll be a one or two day.

Christine Van Bloem: I've you know, I've walked that road. My mom had Alzheimer's as well and It it's You know, after she passed. Because for her, I was like, whatever she wants to eat. I, I, I don't care. You know, the bacon bacon burger, you know, with the sweet potato fries.

Have two. I don't care. You know, have anything you want. But now that she has passed, I really am looking at it a little more differently. I mean, listen, last night I did chicken in the air fryer on a pretzel roll with arugula. I did like a thing. And it was delicious. It was what I wanted right then. But I'm, I do look at things a little differently with the Alzheimer's.

You know, just, it's just, I don't know, you want to maybe take care of yourself just a little better. Even though I think you do a fabulous job, you know, with the vegetarianism. I, I think that's so healthy and so wonderful. Have you ever done the cauliflower steak where you take the head of cauliflower, you're like, oh yeah, and you cut it and sear it off.

Heather Tydings: I, that is one of my favorite things, and I will dress it with like a dill, dill and fried capers and lemon, and a

Christine Van Bloem: Fried

Heather Tydings: Oh, fried

Christine Van Bloem: Fried capers are a revelation.

Heather Tydings: Oh, they, they're

Christine Van Bloem: They're, they're so good. Okay everybody, listen, I'm going to give you this hint right now. You can make a deviled egg and you can put a little lemon zest and a little parsley and what you're going to do is you're going to fry some capers and they blossom, right?

They turn into like little flowers. You don't need a lot of oil, but you're going to put, I don't know, I, I put like, Half an inch of oil in the bottom of a small pan and then you have to pat your capers dry Because anytime you're going into oil, you don't want any water and they're in a brine So it's really important that you don't just dump them in or else it's going to all flare up.

That's super dangerous So you take your capers out you put them on a little paper towel, pat them dry Drop them in the oil. It takes what Heather? 15, 20 seconds? 30 seconds? Put one in first, test your oil and make sure it'll, it goes from this little closed thing to kind of this blossom and it opens up and it is salty and crunchy and Heather, you're a genius.

I love that you're bringing up the fried capers.

Heather Tydings: my, they, they are life changing at dinner. I'll also do a romesco sauce. I'll do a romesco sauce and then do that over the So it is roasted peppers, tomatoes, onions, garlic. Then I put that in the food processor or the Vitamix with hazelnuts, with toasted

Christine Van Bloem: Oh, oh,

Heather Tydings: Mm hmm.

Christine Van Bloem: it. I love hazelnuts. Yes. Yes.

Heather Tydings: salt and pepper, obviously, because everything needs, in my life, needs salt and pepper.

And then put, and Greg will get a whitefish, my husband will get a whitefish, and I'll do my cauliflower steaks, and it is with the pinot noir.

Christine Van Bloem: That's sad. Okay, I have always detested cauliflower because I grew up in the era of the, the bag of cauliflower with some kind of a sauce, and you poked a hole in the bag, and then mom put it in the microwave, and then it came out, and, and all that. But I'm trying, like I'm, I'm going back to all these foods except beets and I'm trying, sorry, I can't, they taste like dirt and sadness.

It's just, I can't do it. I can't, I've tried, but I can't. When I went to culinary school, we roasted beets like class number three. And one of the girls, I was like, no beets for me, she said, have you ever had them roasted? I'm like, I've never had them not out of a can. What are you talking about? She said, it's a whole new thing.

So I said, I'll try it. No. They get their pinky grossness all over everything.

Heather Tydings: They do. I've made them three times in the last. That's how I am with mushrooms. Like, I really

Christine Van Bloem: You don't like mushrooms?

Heather Tydings: I have never liked them. And I try because, you know, if you go anywhere, they have, that is their vegetarian option on the menu. And it is really, and so sometimes I just make myself eat them.

Once in a while, I have had one. At Old Volt, they had some that I like when Volt was there, but mushrooms are real they just, they like, they, no,

Christine Van Bloem: Yeah. Well. And now, I totally respect it. I'm like, you know, whatever. You know, but I love mushrooms. I love them.

Heather Tydings: I want to. I order them sometimes. I'm like, okay, today we make friends. Today we do. Today, today's gonna be the day.

Christine Van Bloem: No friends. No friends. Well, there there's a restaurant here in town called The Wine Kitchen. And I'm guessing you've been there a thousand times. I love

Heather Tydings: of my favorite places. Yeah.

Christine Van Bloem: Have you done First of all, their service. Ridiculous. Like, it's impeccable. It's so good. But they have a Butternut squash mignon. Have you had that?

Heather Tydings: had it last weekend. I have it as much, and they used to have it with pistachio butter.

Christine Van Bloem: that was my favorite. My the pistachio butter one. 'cause what they'll do is they'll take the idea and basically it's the neck of the squash. They'll cut a couple of rounds out of the neck of a butternut squash and they'll call it a mignon because everything is marketing. But that pistachio butter that was Slap your mama.

Heather Tydings: That was so

Christine Van Bloem: good. That was so good.

Heather Tydings: And I mean, it came with like mushroom risotto, but I got French fries always because French fries. That is my kryptonite right there. French fries, dark chocolate, and a little wine on the weekends. Oh, I eat french, a lot of french fries. So, my motto in eating is clean and a little dirty.

Like, I eat very clean. My motto in life is clean and a little dirty, actually. Just like,

Christine Van Bloem: I love

Heather Tydings: up. Muck it

Christine Van Bloem: Clean and a little dirty.

Heather Tydings: hmm. Yep. And so, I will eat clean all week, but do not take my fries from me, or my glass of wine, or my chocolate. That is not happening.

Christine Van Bloem: Perfect. Perfect. I love that. That's that. I, I like a fry, but like, I love a risotto. I love a grain, right? So when you do the mignon on the risotto or a farro or something like that, I'm just like, give it to me. Give it all to me, baby. No fries here.

Heather Tydings: that's your love language.

Christine Van Bloem: hmm. Well, Heather, you are just a darn delight and I love, I just love the support that you give to our empty nesters and beyond.

But I'm, I'm so grateful to you and I'm so thankful for you for coming on and trying this. And I am going to say, I'm going to do a little shameless self promotion here and say that my first episode is all about salt. So you're going to want to Listen to it because I'm doing I'm, as I explore the podcast more, because I really want this to be something that Empty Nest women who are into food can listen to and be into and be on.

You know, I really want to see that. But I'm going to do a mixture of Interviews and solo episodes and, and some things like that so I can dive into an ingredient or dive into a trend or something like that as we go. But you are at, or is it OwnYourEvolution. com?

Heather Tydings: You got it on ownyourevolution. com. Yep,

Christine Van Bloem: And the same on social,

Heather Tydings: same on social. Yes, it's very easy. No dashes.

Christine Van Bloem: We love no dashes. And I will say Heather is quite the world traveler. So I live vicariously through her. Heather and her husband will go on all these grand adventures and it always just, it's, you're living the dream.

Heather Tydings: I am living the dream. I have to say everything I dreamed about when I

Christine Van Bloem: about damn

Heather Tydings: it's, it's come to fruition. Yes.

Christine Van Bloem: We're quoting Lizzo now.

Heather Tydings: Quoted last night. Yes. It is about damn time. And I love every minute of it. So grateful. Yeah.

Christine Van Bloem: That's so great. So be sure that you check out Heather on Own Your evolution.com. Own your evolution on social and Connect, connect, connect. Because I've been trying to persuade Heather to do something online so that the ladies all over this great land can. be in her presence and work with her and all that good stuff.

So stay tuned and if you're local here stay tuned for all of the fun events that she's gonna have. You know they're gonna be top notch so I'm really excited.

Heather Tydings: Thank you, Chris. You're, you were made for this.

Christine Van Bloem: Oh

Heather Tydings: You were made for this.

Christine Van Bloem: well we'll we'll see we'll see how it goes but Heather hang on for a minute and just thank you so much. I really appreciate you.

Heather Tydings: Thank you for having me.

Christine Van Bloem: Thank you.